I had to go down, strap her to my back, and carry her back up it. Exactly what I came away with. has said so for many years. If we had failures to feed, I don’t recall them. PMC hollow-points were generally powerful enough. with warne steel .22 rings a scope can be mounted, because it needs to be heavier. Measured in muzzle energy, the 50 AE is more powerful than the 44 mag. My original DE in .44 and .41 has no issues. some loads my be more or less for different types of poweders, but the above does a fair job of comparing the muzzle energy. My father has a Deagle in .357. On the positive side, the Deagle’s trigger is more-than-merely adequate. The cartridge is based on 50 AE necked down for .44 Magnum projectiles. Just saying. Just to be sure, I made up some hand loads that went past what’s safe for most revolvers and into the section of the Hornady reloading manual reserved for the Thompson Center single shot pistols. That’s all we have (As a starting point) in People’s Republic CA. Oh – maybe it can…. The Desert Eagle’s grip is designed to accommodate the single stack .50AE magazine. I have gotten that info in the past and archived it, so here, for the readers, it is, and I’ll paste it into a new COMMENT as well: It feels a lot like a mil-spec AR trigger. At times, a particular model of I know this has nothing to do with the Desert Eagle(unless you buy a holster for one). grains), and .50 Action Express ammunition The experience of shooting the Desert Eagle in .44 Magnum is ruined by the hand cannon’s lousy ergonomics. I spread my shooting out over a week; the effort required to shoot the Deagle in .50AE got old at roughly 60 rounds. While the .50AE Deagle was never perfect, it was never like this. I once owned a .357 DE, and two of my buddies had .44 models (this was the late 80, early 90s). I am a fan of the .44 mag. PMC Starfire 44SFA dunno). Never have shot one of those, have a S&W .460 and that’s another whole level of power. A DE50 is one of my favorite guns to shoot. They work best with hand loads. This joker doesn’t seem qualified to give a gun review. Some of those rounds were tried, specifically the PMC and American Eagle rounds. But I see nothing that an unreliable, overweight Deagle can do that a decent .44 mag revolver can’t do better. If my hands are too low, one touches the magazine and causes a malfunction. Then discovered it was pretty tough to load a deer weighing more than I do (I’m 150) into an Explorer alone. Handgun Recoil Table By Chuck Hawks. round minimum) to ensure reliability. And no matter how I held the Deagle, I kept hitting the slide release. In .44 Magnum, it’s simply not worth putting up with the Deagle’s dreadful ergonomics. What’s the downside? ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL DESERT EAGLE IN 50AE AND 44MAG DUAL CALIBER. . Avoid reloads, surplus and I don’t. Weight: 4 lbs. ammunition designed by its manufacturer Although the accuracy is great, the .44 Magnum lack of reliability kills any joy you might get from this range toy. It is of note that many of the Northwest wilderness guides seem to prefer the 10 mm semi -auto. Maybe the issues come from designing something to handle the .50AE. 50 AE is only available as a conversion option. Mine would almost stack the brass in a small pile at 4:00, just behind my right shoulder, about 4 feet out. Using commercial Federal Hydrashock 240gr JHPs, I shot 1.8-inch groups at the same distance. Barrel Length:  7.2 inches Feels like a 22 with 44 special. Three different pistols are available in a variety of finishes----.357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, or .50 Action Express, each with a 6" or 10" barrel. substituting a different powder or primer. Even a large-handed shooter like me can barely get a decent grip on the thing. The gun measures 10.75” in length with a 6” barrel, or 14.75” in a 10” barrel available in black as an aftermarket item. Learned what the expression “dead weight” means. Even that failed to reliably cycle the Deagle. After 150 rounds of testing, struggling with a constantly malfunctioning gun, I figured I had a reasonable idea of the gun’s reliability. The .460SW out of the X frame is stout. Yes, the .50AE requires a very firm grip. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. A number of rifles and carbines in the Henry Big Boy series are offered in .44 Magnum (most actually, and plenty in .357 Magnum and .45 Colt as well) so there are a number to choose from.. A good starting point is the Big Boy Classic (that’s the Golden Boy, above) , with Henry’s signature brass receiver and octagonal 20-inch barrel. Magtech 44A & 44C Bought it last year from CDNN Sports, as a factory used/blem . Mine would not run very lightweight bullets (110 gr), but 125 gr on up were no problem. Finish: Black oxide a .357 mag would be good choice also. So to answer you part of the question about hunting deer with a handgun I highly recommend you reconsider your choice. I wanted to see what the big-boned Desert Eagle would do with the powerful pistol cartridge. Their current manual would actually contradict any list of ammunition, as it specifically says, “Consequently, ammunition which proved reliable in the past may suddenly begin to cause malfunctions.” This is not only what the current manual says, but also what is still listed in the Q&A section of their website, which states, “We do suggest trying as many commercial, manufactured, semi-jacketed Magnum cartridges as possible and see which one works the best for you and your pistol.” You have entered an incorrect email address! The maximum weight generally-available bullet for the .44 Magnum is 300 grains and the nominal bullet weight for the .50 AE is 325 grains or more. https://tacticalgunreview.com/desert-eagle-44-mag/. It’s like having an exotic car. I don’t see any mention of the author’s cooperation with these strict instructions in the article. Because the case rim is the same size as that of the .44 Mag., it only requires a barrel and magazine swap to convert a .50 AE Desert Eagle to .44 Mag. Once in a great while, my buddy can find his ammo at the local store. It’s got quite a bit of take-up. If I had thugs carrying around a tank like a DE they may as well stuff a Shockwave in their pants or something. The Hornady round printed 1.5-inch five-round groups at 25 yards. Taken as a whole, even with the extra muzzle rise, my S&W Model 29 — a full pound and a half lighter — is more pleasant to shoot than the Desert Eagle in the same caliber. The .50 AE was introduced in the Desert Eagle from Magnum Research in 1991, and shortly thereafter shooters began requesting an alternative to the relatively small selection of factory ammunition, and, for sensitive shooters, the recoil of the .50 round, but still with substantially more stopping power than the .44 Magnum. guns are not reliable with other ammo,and D.E. In fact, from the manual, which is posted on the Magnum Research website here: http://www.magnumresearch.com/Brochures-Manuals.asp. Just something about the concussive blast and fireballs from H110 that bring a smile to my face. MSRP: $1,949. Many will try but few will succeed. Thank you for your comment and your assistance. A 460 XVR fits my medium-sized hands nicely. I definitely agree on the ergos – they’re terrible. But, El Paso Saddlery is having 20% off until July 9th. Supposedly there was a .41 JMP round, but I’ve never seen one. it does and would reduce the recoil on the 50. on the 44 I don't see that you need it. I think all of the largest bore hot caliber revolvers or pistols really have only three applications. Fired from an 8.375-inch revolver, the same 240-grain .44 magnum bullet can reach even higher velocities of up to 1,500 feet per second, generating relatively more muzzle energy, up … .50 AE vs. .44 Remington Mag. I’m surprised anyone would be interested in that big .50 AE round anyway. Im sorry, i know its hard to sue a firearm company StateSide™ but if a weapon isnt reliable whoever makes it should be made to suffer in civil courts of law for malpractice. For one thing, the jumbo-sized gun is difficult to hold comfortably for extended strings of fire. I have fired the .357 (as mentioned in an earlier post). 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum 480 Ruger 50 AE 500 Magnum: 223 Remington 243 Winchester 270 Winchester 300 Winchester Magnum 300 AAC Blackout 30-30 Winchester 30-06 Springfield 308 Winchester 50 Beowulf 5.45x39 7mm Remington Magnum 7mm-08 Remington 7.62x39 Appearance: * * * * I put one on my .338 lapua and it knocked it down a lot. “Decent” reliability isn’t enough for me. Shame on you! Despite upping the energy, the big bore Desert Eagle retained the same level of accuracy as the .44 Magnum. I’ve shot the 44 Mag version before. Even worse than a Keltec and 2 Tauruses. ‘ ‘ 44C We all know that it won’t even penetrate a book. It’s a simple task that takes less than a minute. While the .454 Casull may be the cream of the crop when handgun hunting with revolvers, many agree the .44 Rem Mag is more of the sweet-spot caliber – as it still has significant power, but without the hard-to-manage recoil. Bought it at an estate sale new in the box. I preferred the .357 over the .44, but both were enjoyable. The trigger was so bad right out of the box, i never fired a shot. It does have reliability issues, but if you handload stout enough rounds — and if you don’t limp wrist, you can run it 90% of the time reliably. Selected ammunition should be test fired (100 I said I had. SPECIFICATIONS: Desert Eagle Mark XIX .44 Magnum/.50 AE, Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt semiautomatic Magtech 44A & 44C One in .357, then the “new” .44. Because it’s a necked-down cartridge, it has less felt recoil than similarly-powered 50 AE loads. It has run flawlessly using American Eagle AE44A ammo. Hollywood’s portrayal of B rated thugs is what keeps this gun alive. Any limp-wristing will induce a failure to feed. Commercial rounds in either of the two included calibers delivers good bench rest accuracy. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. My problem is the free floating magazine. Shot him dead in the chest – no angle offered, he was looking right at me – offhand at 80Y. make changes to their ammunition such as The .475 Linebaugh from a Bisley frame is downright violent. Precison Tgt TCSP The gun’s famous recoil is certainly a handful. I had two failures to feed out of 40 rounds of Hornady 300gr XTP. empty It’s too little Goldielocks area for me. Caliber: .44 MAGNUM/.50AE You really have to do things right to get that .44 Mag bullet up to around 1200 fps, but the .50 AE bullet will cruise easily at 1300 to 1400 fps. They are made under Magnum research’s supervision for what that’s worth. Iconic. But as long as you hold the Deagle in a death grip and keep your wrists locked, the .50 cal version of the pistol will run reasonably well. You may be a bit over that price but I think you could get a 327 and 329 for that if you got a good deal. Even if the gun was reliable in .44Mag, it’s waaaay too much gun for that round. There are are only a handful of actions out there that will run 22LR reliably and even then most of those need the right kind of ammo. D.E. (158 grains), .44 Magnum ammunition (240 Lastly the largest group of side cannon connoisseurs on ranges want you to see that they have a bigger one than anyone else. Once you get used to it, you’ll be rewarded with some  excellent accuracy. I’ve also heard the .44 Magnum version requires stout loads to cycle; many commercial loads won’t git ‘er done. for visible defects before loading it into the Hot loads in a S&W 29 were not pleasant for me. The list of approved ammo should be in the owner’s manual, and is also available on the company website. Using six different commercial loads and one hand load, I rarely made it though a magazine without a failure to feed. Magazine Capacity: 8 rounds L44MG7 For that price, you could purchase two Smith and Wesson large frame revolvers … or THREE Taurus large frame revolvers! Let’s take a look at a comparison between the .50 AE and the .44 Remington Magnum. I did as you recommended, I did a series of Google searches for recommended ammunition. So…a 5 lb unreliable POS costs almost $2000? handgun will not reliably function with a The .44 Magnum is a powerful revolver cartridge. http://www.magnumresearch.com/faq-DE.asp#q8 it does need an occasional tap to close. Chris Dumm for TTAG. Well that was manageable, and I felt like my man card was reissued. Overall: * /* * * but that you would have to decide for your self. More reliable, not that fewer rounds and more fire power. (the old ones have 3/8″ rail…). So what do you think will the .44 mag be ok for a 300 round gun course without my wrist falling off? A magazine or two (when possible) and I’m pretty much done. They did not work well. It was initially developed to be a more potent load of the .44 S&W Special, its parent cartridge, by Elmer Keith in 1955.. Made largely popular by Clint Eastwood in his 1971 movie “Dirty Harry”, it has enjoyed a well-deserved reputation among law enforcers, hunters and sporting arms enthusiasts. 4 lb. Complete 44 magnum ammunition ballistics Chart. A .50AE Deagle is fun but silly. look into a revolver there better for using bigger rounds. Gun Review: Desert Eagle .44 Magnum/.50AE Combo Caliber Package, Desert Eagle .44 Magnum Combo Caliber Package, Quote of the Day: Perpetrating Political Violence. budget priced ammunition as well as any But it’s a pure show off gun, with zero uses that aren’t outclassed by other guns. Former gun slinger, current gun writer. With softer commercial loads like the American Eagle 240gr JHPs, the Eagle’s muzzle rise is downright minimal. The result is a cartridge that pushes bullets as much as 25 percent faster than .44 Magnum loads, producing up to 45 percent more energy at the muzzle. It feels like a full size 9mm to me. The lack of reliablity could be due to the fact that IMI no longer produces the DEAGLE and it was sold to KHAR who is of a mixed reputation when it comes to quality. Inspect all ammunition (300/350 grains), in accordance with industry Now if they would just make one in .475 Linebaugh. The Desert Eagle is known throughout the world and is as recognizable as any pistol made. reliable in the past may suddenly begin to After a liberal dose of Rouge American Apparel’s Gun Oil one hundred rounds of Federal’s 325gr RNFP Big Grains ammo ran flawlessly. I will say this though, I’ve found DEs quite entertaining and fun to shoot, far more than 44 mag revolvers. The bark is worse than the bite in .44 mag. That’s excellent, better than most of my revolvers. The .44s would even run Federal’s 180 JHP with no problem, and the effect of that bullet on water-filled one-gallon jugs was…spectacular. Slide Width: 1.25 inches The only drawback was that they were pricey range toys, but they worked and were fun to shoot – back then. Many years ago I shot a doe and she jumped right off a cliff. I would take two or three revolvers over that monstrosity every time. The .44 Remington Magnum, or simply .44 Magnum (10.9×33mmR), and frequently .44 Mag, is a large-bore cartridge originally designed for revolvers. ., but no where near the recoil of the .50 AE. Both shot well. This is like saying 44 Magnum vs 44 Magnum...which is more powerful? Welcome to The Desert Eagle Forums. The relatively minor reliability issues in this niche gun are acceptable in .50AE,  but not worth tolerating in .44 Magnum. Interesting review, as said I think I’d love to shoot a few rounds from one but have no inclination to own one. my xll is .44mag. That impressive accuracy doesn’t make up for an almost complete lack of reliability. That is, none of them were found on their websites, or pointed to their websites. I have a spreadsheet that I got off the D.E. Accuracy: * * * * Commercial rounds in either of the two included calibers delivers good bench rest accuracy. Just thought I would let people know. I recall several of us taking turns at a big gravel pit in the PNW, hitting a beer keg at 100m, two-handed standing. Yes a Camry is a lot more cost effective, practical, ergonomic, and reliable – but theres a time and a place to just stir things up a bit! Still wish there would be a semi auto in 41mag…like an Auto Mag from “Sudden Impact”. 44 Colt Ammo; 44 Magnum Ammo; 44 Remington Magnum Ammo; 44 Russian Ammo; 44 S&W Special Ammo; 44-40 Winchester Ammo; 444 Marlin Ammo; 45 ACP Ammo; 45 Auto Rim Ammo; 45 Colt (LC Long Colt) Ammo; 45 GAP Ammo; 45 Schofield Ammo; 45 Super - 480 Ruger. When I got to the top, exhausted, my uncle, knowing that I was about to enter the army to become a medic, asked me if I had learned anything about carrying someone uphill during that little adventure. Sure, there’s plenty of felt recoil, but it’s not painful or particularly distracting. Recoil is very manageable. Desert Eagle. I was especially interested to know if running .44 Mag in the Deagle would make it more enjoyable to shoot. firearms. On page 5 it gives us a short note to tell us only to use rounds within SAAMI spec: I nearly choked to death and my screen and keyboard have coffee all over them. Loud. Overall Length: 10.75” / 27.3 cm 10.75” / 27.3 cm 10.75” / 27.3 cm Perhaps the previous owner had lots of failures until the gun smoothed out. 149. AMT/IAI (the makers of the original magnum semi-auto pistol, the .44 automag) also made the Automag IV and V pistols, which were chambered in the .45 Winchester Magnum and .50 AE cartridges respectively. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. website in June, 2016, and it recommends these rounds: Am Eagle AE44A But it’s not. So when the Israeli-made Desert Eagle .44 Magnum Combo Caliber Package arrived at TTAG HQ, the handgun had a big hill to climb. Use only the highest quality factory Since 2009 the Desert Eagle Pistol has been produced in the USA at MRI’s Pillager, MN facility. I have an older Mark VII 44 Magnum made in Israel. The Desert Eagle pistols After its … magazine. For long sessions I double up on hearing protection, and it makes a huge difference. But don’t think I enjoy shooting the Deagle. .44mag revolvers are more fun, and my .500 S&W satisfies the urge for abusive recoil when it arises. website in June, 2016, and it recommends these rounds: Am Eagle AE44A TheManOfSteel2000. Sight Radius: 8.5 inches And lots of hardware with which to do it: .44 Magnum and .50 AE barrels and slides. Winchester X44MHSP2. big fun, relatively useless, accurate. always comes with, always satisfies. My Smith & Wesson Model 29-4 is a pig killing machine. Sights: Combat type That is unless you are talking about a round by buffalo bore that is a 44 mag+p+. The Desert Eagle is a gas-operated, semi-automatic pistol with a 7 round capacity in .50 AE and 8 round capacity in .44 Magnum. However, not very many of these IV and V series Automag pistols were made before production ended, so they are pretty hard to find. Browning (2) CZ (2) Magnum Research (13) Ruger (3) T/C Arms (4) Barrel Twist. The Mark XIX Desert Eagle is a gas-operated, semi-automatic pistol with a 7 round capacity in .50 AE and 8 round capacity in .44 Magnum. Why would anyone go with a 44 mag version? . While the change doesn’t get rid of the Desert Eagle’s inherent ergonomic challenges, it changed the pistol’s reliability entirely. CapArms Question of the Day: What’s on YOUR AR? for use in carbines or other shoulder-fired Height: 6.25 inches Accuracy: * * * * In .50AE, the Magnum Research Desert Eagle pistol is a fascinating firearm. and cheap back when i bought it, about $650 in ’90, new. Desert Eagle is just a brand or type of firearm and you can buy one chambered in 44 Magnum. 149. Magnum Research Desert Eagle Pistol, Aluminum Frame, SS Slide/Barrel Rating Required Select Rating 1 star (worst) 2 stars 3 stars (average) 4 stars 5 stars (best) It tells us to never use hand loads, and then later gives us this warning on page 26. : 2. Shoots any 44 mag round out there, ( can't say that about S&W ). The muzzle concussion will wear on you much faster than the recoil. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. “Gut them first.”. Post Jan 26, 2014 #1 2014-01-27T03:50. Remington RH44MGA, RTP44MG2, RTP44MG3, I can't imagine that the extra pressure as a steady diet would be good for any pistol though.50 AS is measured around 1500 ft pounds of energy. Again, recoil wasn’t the issue. I can't believe how little recoil I feel with it, though. look into a revolver in .44 mag, .454 casual, or .50 S&W mag. I wonder if a large part of the .44 issues are from being in a “.50 AE pistol”. pull Single action In .50AE, not bad at all. The gun measures 10.75” in length with a 6” barrel, or 14.75” in a 10” barrel available in black as an aftermarket item. are designed for: .357 Magnum ammunition I will say the Freedom Munitions .44 rounds didn’t fully cycle the Deagle XIX a single time. I have the .50AE and I was planning on doing a pistol course but felt the .50AE is a bit to powerful to fire 300 rounds in one session. Hot loads through a deagle? Not that I have thugs or anything. 357 mag 15 223 rifle 22 44 mag 25 50 AE 33 308 44 30-06 54 300 WM 75 300 Ultra 90.50 BMG 230 Note, powder wights are typical. A great place to hang out and talk to knowledgable members about the monster handgun - the D. I have the .50AE and I was planning on doing a pistol course but felt the .50AE is a bit to powerful to fire 300 rounds in one session. Purchase one pistol and you have the platform to build the other five with a simple switch of components. The websites for Desert Eagle, or Magnum Research all say the same thing, basically try out whatever you can, and some will work and some won’t. In .50AE, not bad at all. In .44 Magnum, it’s not. Henry USA, of course, also makes a few. They all ran flawlessly when using Federal jacketed magnum ammo in the appropriate caliber. Anyhow, the Desert Eagle comes in three calibers, .357 Magnum, 44 Magnum and 50 AE...powerful from left to right as well. The Federal rounds were all just barely under the 2-inch mark as well. .44 Rem Magnum (1).45 LC / 410 GA (1).50 AE (4) Firearm Fit. Compare all 44 Magnum ammunition manufacturers on one easy to read chart. Fed Classic C44A © COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. It’s a bit hard-to-find this ammo list there,to be fair. Also, ammunition manufacturers can Such as it isn’t. cause malfunctions. Registered Member. and back again. The Coupon Code is: “2017July4”. Winchester X44MHSP2, One magazine’s test got good reliability from PMC ammo and awful results with most Hornady rounds, but good results with some Hornady ammo: PMC Starfire 44SFA If they’re too high, I get slide bite. Owned many many handguns over the last 40 years and the”Deagle” waz the worst of the lot. I’ve shot many a big bore pistol. They are probably the coolest looking pistols on the planet but thats about it. The Mark XIX Desert Eagle is a gas-operated, semi-automatic pistol with a 7 round capacity in .50 AE and 8 round capacity in .44 Magnum. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. The giant, stiff, slide-mounted safety is horrible. There is not much difference between the 44 M and 357 M, many have mentioned. Remington RH44MGA, RTP44MG2, RTP44MG3, Last sentence above not referencing the 10 mm auto. But that’s not what keeps me from enjoying the pistol. Perhaps he got lucky, but I know a lot of guns get better with use. ‘ ‘ 44D (Target ammo) TheManOfSteel2000. L44MG7 Magnum revolver—"the most … Swapping slides from .44 to .50AE couldn’t be easier. I do not understand why anyone would choose a Desert Eagle in .44Mag. AMMO RECOMMENDATIONS: ammunition. As a non-D.E.owner,I’ve found it’s easier to get the approved ammo list by using search engines (“Googling”).. “I don’t see any mention of the author’s cooperation with these strict instructions in the article.” I have a spreadsheet that I got off the D.E. Recoil of .44 mag vs .50AE. Although I found several varying lists, none were from IMI, Kahr, or Magnum Research. It’s a fun range toy. 1:18 (4) Barrel Finish. I’ve not had any feeding issues, I’ve only had the slide not go fully into battery (probably the loads weren’t “hot enough” heh), but you just have to push the slide forward a little to fix that. If it was fast follow up shots with a .44Magnum, it would be another thing entirely. Precison Tgt TCSP Mr. Crawford, thank you for the listing. There have been years I’ve hunted exclusively with a Ruger Bisley Hunter in .44 Magnum. Auto Mags weren’t .44 magnum, they were .44 AMP. In .44 Magnum, it’s not. Desert Eagles have strict requirements for ammo choices in every caliber. Hunting boar is with a scoped large bore side arm is something a few like to do. Mostly because those strict instruction do not exist. Consequently, ammunition which proved ‘ ‘ 44D (Target ammo) whatever. If you spend time in the NE wilderness areas they are the only side are that may give you a prayer in a Grizzly/ Brown bear attack. I suspect that being used, the springs had softened a bit and probably became more reliable. iwi made the series vll in .41mag. Annoying yes, but no one considers this a practical self defense pistol of any sort (unless self defense against bears? I’ve noticed lately that street thugs seem to all carry Deagles while bosses carry something smaller and classier.
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